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Should I take dividends in a loss-making year, or leave the money in the company?

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Hi everyone,

 

This year looks like it will be a loss-making year for my limited company — costs are up, and I expect to make a small loss after everything is accounted for. There's still cash in the business account, and I'm wondering whether I should take dividends this year or just leave the money in the company.

 

A few things I'd like to understand:

 

• Can I legally pay dividends if the company has made a loss this year, as long as there are retained profits from previous years?

• If there are no retained profits, am I right that I simply can't take dividends at all — and what happens if I do by mistake?

• From a tax point of view, is there any advantage to leaving the money in the company versus taking it now? For example, does taking dividends in a loss year waste the loss somehow?

• Is there anything I should be doing with the loss itself — carrying it forward or back?

 

I usually take a small salary plus dividends, so this is the first year I've had to think about this. Not asking for personal advice, just the general rules so I don't do anything wrong.

 

Thanks,

Oliver

1 Answer

Hi Oliver,

Good questions — this is exactly the kind of year where the dividend rules bite, so let's take them in order.

Can you pay dividends in a loss-making year? Yes — a dividend is legal in a loss-making year if the company has sufficient retained distributable profits (i.e. accumulated profits from current and previous years) to cover it. The test is what the accounts show as distributable, not this year's result. Always declare dividends at a directors' meeting, keep minutes even if you're the sole director, and issue a dividend voucher each time.

What if there are no retained profits? You're right — then you can't take a dividend at all, however much cash is sitting in the account. An unlawful dividend can be reclaimed by the company, so directors have to repay it. If the numbers are borderline, get the accounts checked before declaring anything.

Tax: take or leave? There's no tax advantage to "wasting" a loss — taking a dividend doesn't eat into it, because dividends aren't a business cost and don't affect the trading loss. The question is simply what cash you need. Taking the dividend now is taxed at dividend rates this year; leaving it in the company means it stays as retained profit (after the loss) to draw later. If you're a higher-rate taxpayer this year but might drop a band later, timing can matter — but don't contort yourself just to avoid paying a dividend.

What to do with the loss: trade the loss smartly. A trading loss can be carried forward against future profits of the same trade, or carried back against profits of the previous 12 months (claimed on the Company Tax Return). If last year was profitable, carrying back may get you tax repaid sooner. Either way, claim it — don't let it slip away.

Keep your salary ticking over as normal; that one's unaffected by all of this.

Amelia

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